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March 15, 2008

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deichmans

"...while FEMA floundered," or "...while FEMA waited for State-granted authority to proceed"?

I don't hold FEMA nearly as responsible for the failure of early relief efforts as I do Gov. Blanco and Mayor Nagin.

Effective response and mitigation begins with the community, not the feds.

A.E.

Point taken and corrected.

subadei

Weird. My earlier comment is apparently floating out there in cyber Jimmy Hoffa land.

At any rate, isn't FEMA's lead time something like 72 hours?

Amazing how fast a social structure can collapse, isn't it?

BTW, your link to John actually goes to Soob.

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"Even the most advanced societies can degenerate into mass violence--take the 1992 Rodney King riots for example. "

Why would you consider ghettos in general, or South-Central Los Angeles in particular, to be an instance of "the most advanced societies"?

A.E.

Even though South-Central (it's now called "South Los Angeles" to be more politically correct) is a part of the "gap," it's still a sub-set of a first world country.

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"Even though South-Central (it's now called "South Los Angeles" to be more politically correct) is a part of the "gap," it's still a sub-set of a first world country."

So what? You're mixing levels of analysis.

You write about 'the most sophisticated societies' degenerating into mass violence. That's exaggerating the length of the trip of the then-SCLA.

One might as well write that 'the most Islamic societies can spontaneously develop a globalized multi-party democracy,' and use Israel as an example because of its geographic neighbors.

If you're point is that already broken mini-Gaps can degenerate into mass violence, write that. If you're point is that areas like SCLA got a bad rap, or not mini Gaps, and still degenerated, write that instead.

But don't assert something that doesn't make sense, like: "Even the most advanced societies can degenerate into mass violence--take the 1992 Rodney King riots for example."

A.E.

I feel I may have failed to explain myself properly, so here goes.

For one, its reductive to say the riot merely South Central Los Angeles, many other areas, especially the center of the city (Mid-Wilshire), were hit hard by the violence. Even outside the city (LA County in a general sense) there was violence. The totality of the city as a system broke down, with police units overtaxed and wealthier and ethnic areas reverting back to privatized forms of security.

Additionally, the comparison between SCLA-LA and Israel-Mideast is overwrought.

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